Avengers: Age Of Ultron will be filled with Time Travel, an Ultron Army, and The Mandarin?

Taylor Landine December 16, 2013 13

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Ever since fans had heard the reveal that the upcoming sequel to last years mega hit The Avengers was to be titled Avengers: Age Of Ultron, speculation has run rampant on how this would play out.

First when fans realized that the upcoming Ant-Man film would be released after the film, they jumped to conclusions saying that Tony would create the titular villain and it would be a more evolved version of his J.A.R.V.I.S. AI that fans of the film series have come to know.

But now we may just have some new information that throws a whole wrench into everyone’s theories, but before we go into that, first we have to delve into the source of the rumor, Roger Wardell.

4ff1be2458da35327fe0cc0c914f5e1dFor quite some time now, Roger Wardell has been the biggest source of rumors and leaks in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. For those who aren’t keeping track, “he” had revealed some of the most key points to just about every Phase 2 Marvel film. His tweets have called out some big plot points such as the deaths of both Odin and Frigga in Thor: The Dark World, to some of the tiniest Easter eggs with the inclusion of the Fing Fang Foom tattoos that Aldrich Killian had plastered on his chest in Iron Man 3. So far, every single tweet he has made has been proven to be true, despite some of them often being insignificant.

So now that we have set the stage, its time to get into the tasty news he has now brought to the table.

On Sept 28th he posted the following:

There was more to The Mandarin than meets the eye… A lot of deception…

But after that post there was unfortunately a great deal of silence, that is until the rumors of JGL being in the mix for Ant-Man hit the web, to which his chimed in with the following tweets on OCT 22nd:

Ultron has been around for a while as an AI but he will come out of nowhere and rule the world.

The Ant-Man film will be set in the past so the story would focus on Hank Pym and if JGL is cast he will portray Scott Lang.

And then later posted this snippet from an old interview with director Edgar Wright that was in 2006:


Then posted the following 3 tweets:

Like Ben Kingsley, Aldrich Killian (Guy Pearce) will show up again in a future Marvel project.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier is going to be the biggest movie of Phase 2!

We we’re deceived by the story told in Iron Man 3. Stark was deceived as well, that’s why he told the story.

Then back to silence, leaving everyone who read the tweets to dwell on what he stated. Within those tweets he had not only stated that Ultron would appear out of nowhere, but also that Ant-Man would primarily be set in the 60’s, Ben Kingsley and Guy Pearce would return, and most of what we think we knew happened in Iron Man 3 was a ruse.

Then he removes the gloves on Dec 4th and pretty much drops the mother load of potential plot points and spoilers.

The Mandarin in the MCU is an elevated past physical being, as it sort of is a technodemon, a biological AI…

Extremis has more to it then just being like a super soldier serum. The technological part in Extremis is the brain..


The AI (Mandarin) controls the Extremis soldiers in order to try and mold one of them into the actual Mandarin…

While doing this the power of the AI (Mandarin) can become too much for some (Aldrich Killian)…

Killian’s superego really was starting to convince himself that he was the master of the mandarin persona…

While Trevor was embracing it and becoming it…

In the end The Mandarin will stay an AI, but Trevor’s mind and body will become the technodemon mandarin persona.

The one shot that Kingsley is referring to will reveal that the Mandarin is an AI.

It is also a GREAT possibility that Kingsley will show up in Captain America: The Winter Soldier…

Speaking of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, it will be revealed there that AIM is secretly working under Hydra.

Although The Mandarin is an AI he cannot control Tech. This is where Ultron comes in…

The Mandarin uses Ultron to control the Tech that he needs. Some can almost say that Ultron will be The Mandarin’s JARVIS for now…

“You don’t need a Pym to create an Ultron.” See the play on words?

Pym creates the software (Ultron). Pym’s software gets sold to hydra, etc.

While Ultron evolves and learns to control time, he aligns himself with Mandarin, and once he gains free will, he’s timeless…

and then starts to travel through time.

The Mandarin will essentially take over the world with the help of Ultron who then over throws Mandarin and creates his age.

At some point Ultron gets the time gem and Avengers 2 is sort of like a big timeloop that would keep repeating.

We find out it’s Pym who breaks that timeloop in the Ant-Man movie.

Some parts of Ant-Man will take place DURING Age of Ultron.

Ultron uses Pym’s tech and traps Pym in a timeloop BEFORE he ever creates the Ultron software.

Ultron create’s a timeloop of him getting vibranium and Stark building him his body.

Since there is a timeloop of that, he has unlimited vibranium/bodies and uses those to take over the world.

As long as those timeloops remain, the world will be his, as he can keep experiencing it.

In Ant-Man, Yellow Jacket/Pym stops him. It’s different though. It’s not the original Pym.

Since he was trapped in a time loop. This Pym was rescued by The Collector.

Yellow Jacket doesn’t know who he is, or who ultron is, because this Pym never created him.

But he ends up finding out about Thanos, and what Ultron has done and eventually…

He is able to end the timeloops that was supplying Ultron the vibranium, thus giving our heroes in Avengers 2 a chance to defeat him.

It may appear that The Vision/Stark/Avengers stopped him, but it was really Pym who gave the opportunity.

The Ant-Man movie will tell Ultron’s origin and the villains will be Whirlwind and Equinox.

Now at this point, there is a ton that was potentially revealed. The advent of time-loops isnt one that could necessarily be out of place thanks to the inclusion of the “Time Gem”, with the Mind Gem being used by Loki in The Avengers,  the Power Gem being the primary focus of Thor: The Dark World, and the recent reveal that the Guardian’s Of The Galaxy will feature another yet to be unnamed Gem.

He also addressed The Mandarin, and with the recent reveal that Ben Kingsley would be reprising the role, this new rumor also fits into that news.


So what of Ultron? At this point, almost 0% about the character for the film (aside from the casting of James Spader) has been revealed. And while it is true that Kevin Feige stated that “You don’t need a Pym to create an Ultron” Roger Wardell seemingly points that this is just a very careful play on words who he later indicates that its signifying that Pym will take part in its creations, but Aim/Hydra will do the rest.

While yes, its true that at this point all of this cant be confirmed, and in most cases will be religiously denied for the next year up until the films release, if it does turn out to be true, then not only will Marvel have seriously upped its game in terms of story-telling, but they have entered into a whole new realm of Sci-Fi film making.

Avengers: Age Of Ultron is currently slated to hit May 1, 2015.


  1. Chris Nelson December 16, 2013 at 11:29 pm - Reply

    The Tesseract was the space stone, and Loki’s staff was powered by the Tesseract so it’s most likely not the mind stone. So far only the mind stone and the power stone have been confirmed.

    • Taylor Landine December 16, 2013 at 11:31 pm - Reply

      I don’t believe they ever confirmed it was the space stone, the space stone was purple (which if you’ve seen some of the leaked art of Guardian’s of the Galaxy is the one featured in that film) and if you take Kevin Feige at his word, both the Tesseract and Loki’s staff were part of hte same stone of the same color. Blue Stone = Mind Stone.

      • Mike December 17, 2013 at 3:31 pm - Reply

        ^ This.

        Why would the space gem be blue? Why would the space gem control people’s minds?

        Loki took over people’s minds and forced them to his thrall by touching them with his staff = the tessaract = the mind gem.

  2. scb December 17, 2013 at 2:51 pm - Reply

    Kevin Feige explicitly stated the Tesseract is the space stone.


  3. zach wilson December 17, 2013 at 9:22 pm - Reply

    this is the nerdiest shit i’ve ever read. I love it.

  4. Bball722 January 14, 2014 at 2:38 pm - Reply

    Guys , loki’s staff had the mind gem and the tesseracy was te space gem. They never say it was powered by the tesseract, they just said the had the same power signature.

  5. Thanos January 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm - Reply

    This is all BS. Don’t believe it. AI Mandarin creates Ultron? This guy is trolling hard. Death of Odin, Frigga and Foom Tattoos was obvious.

    • Taylor Landine January 14, 2014 at 5:50 pm - Reply

      Sure its possible that its all wrong, but in terms of his previous predictions, He called every single one of them prior to the film actually started filming. So its possible if he is some “insider” he is seeing the scripts or production notes.

    • Lou January 27, 2014 at 10:27 am - Reply

      He aint a troll. Trust me

  6. Joshua August 3, 2014 at 6:46 pm - Reply

    So your won’t on 99% looking back. Wow.

  7. Joshua August 3, 2014 at 6:48 pm - Reply

    *wrong on 99%

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